The Perfect Circle

http://www.vidipedia.org/Special:Video/177

Language : egaugnaL

Here's some language that I havent heard for a while.

I wonder how many of the young people / clients we deal with as educators are more adept at engaging with other through this social filter ?

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TALO : Swap Meat

Check out who's adding themselves to the wikispace. Perhaps you'd like to join us !

Hickstro and Co.

As fate would have it here in NSW Australia we struggle with an education system that honours keeping learners locked into LMS's and given half a chance they'd be throwing away the key also. What's with all the fear ? Sure there's an election coming up and probably many re-structures to waste on the faces of the fairy's who prance and pomp as Ministers and Magicians.

I wonder at how many clandestine OWP bloggers are out there building brilliance and engaging the minds of their students in real and relevant digital literacies. Heaven forbid the powers to be realised. What's a blog I heard a senior staffer ask the other day ?

Tempted to retort with 'poo'. A bit like ' computers say no'.

Check this marvel out and failing that dip your toes into this characters ramblings. Where do they get the inspiration from and why am I feeling so despondant about a sector that would rather provide rule and regulations for Bloggers disguised as guidelines and good news stories.

Make's me ever increasingly sick and more determined to take up fly fishing in business case meetings. Failing that I'll create more opportunities that mix business with treasure.

Please join us.

Rose Between Two Thorns

Rose reckons "yeh....totally."

Friends : ELGG

.......finally they've come up with something that builds a community and makes sense to me who predominantly deals in visuals and other arbitrary connections.

Congratulations folks and as Steven Downe's states you own him your first million.

Blogging : For The Greater Good

It ended in tears and a whole heap of whomers however the second iteration of the preceeding conversation opened up a can of worms as to the relevance of blogging, the rigidity of platforms and the whole issue of how we view blogs and their position in time.

[10:33:22 PM] Graham Wegner says: thnx for that - the 2nd comment - kim cofino?
[10:33:28 PM] Alexander Hayes says: it is indeed
[10:33:32 PM] Alexander Hayes says: welcome Sue
[10:33:56 PM] Graham Wegner says: hi sue, sorry about bailing from the skype call the other night
[10:34:02 PM] Sue Waters says: Hi
[10:34:09 PM] Sue Waters says: That is okay Graham
[10:34:26 PM] Alexander Hayes says: so is it true that one blog is enough ?
[10:34:36 PM] Alexander Hayes added Barbara Dieu to this chat
[10:34:38 PM] Sue Waters says: What do you mean ?
[10:34:59 PM] Alexander Hayes says: Kim reckon's that having a personal blog and a professional blog may be best
[10:35:13 PM] Sue Waters says: Personnally for me no blog
[10:35:33 PM] Alexander Hayes says: you have at least one that I know of Sue
[10:35:39 PM] Alexander Hayes says: Graham has many
[10:36:06 PM] Barbara Dieu says: good evening Alex...are you sure you wanted me here?
[10:36:14 PM] Alexander Hayes says: sure did Barbara
[10:36:17 PM] Graham Wegner says: well my contributions are all over the web
[10:36:26 PM] Graham Wegner says: hi barbara
[10:36:30 PM] Alexander Hayes says: we are discussing Kim's idea about whether oine blog is enough
[10:36:34 PM] Sue Waters says: Actually I have many.... but I wonder if any one ever reads them
[10:36:51 PM] Barbara Dieu says: I thought I had called you by mistake..chatting with someone else that's why
[10:36:55 PM] Alexander Hayes says: they are indeed .....other's comment fields could be seen as an extendion of one's blog could they not
[10:37:01 PM] Barbara Dieu says: but will be with you in a second
[10:37:07 PM] Alexander Hayes says: not at all
[10:37:12 PM] Barbara Dieu says: hello graham and Sue
[10:37:20 PM] Sue Waters says: Hi Barbara
[10:37:22 PM] Alexander Hayes says: I'm intersted cause you are mashing blogs like mad lately
[10:37:25 PM] Graham Wegner says: they can be all pulled together using a tool like cocomment
[10:37:48 PM] Alexander Hayes says: or we could be seen to be contributing in one huge big blog
[10:37:55 PM] Alexander Hayes says: audio podcasting inlcuded
[10:38:11 PM] Sue Waters says: It would be good to have one large site
[10:38:23 PM] Alexander Hayes says: how big ?
[10:38:34 PM] Graham Wegner says: i admit i blog from a selfish point of view initially
[10:38:34 PM] Alexander Hayes says: one site that has all the tools integrated /
[10:38:42 PM] Alexander Hayes says: hehe
[10:38:47 PM] Graham Wegner says: the web
[10:38:46 PM] Barbara Dieu says: So..what's up?
[10:39:05 PM] Barbara Dieu says: which tools do you need?
[10:39:10 PM] Alexander Hayes says: I blog cause I got the shits with the threded and closed loops that didnt link to anything except themself
[10:39:11 PM] Sue Waters says: I don't know but do you find it totally overwhelming the number of blogs around and there is no way you can read it all --- so you get overwhelmed by information
[10:39:45 PM] Sue Waters says: Yes I am thinking one good site with all tools better
[10:39:58 PM] Alexander Hayes says: I need all of them in one space but the ability to contribute to all others......or maybe less tools and more consideration for the micro content spaces in which I contribute
[10:40:02 PM] Graham Wegner says: I have learnt the art of ruthless skimming and of gathering a select group of
[10:40:07 PM] Graham Wegner says: Must
[10:40:09 PM] Graham Wegner says: Read
[10:40:10 PM] Graham Wegner says: Blogs
[10:40:24 PM] Graham Wegner says: sorry
[10:40:25 PM] Alexander Hayes says: uh huh
[10:40:33 PM] Barbara Dieu says: I RSS them all and then read them from time to time
[10:40:42 PM] Sue Waters says: but why read blogs when I can listen to podcasts and get more information
[10:40:44 PM] Barbara Dieu says: cannot keep up with all
[10:40:48 PM] Alexander Hayes says: Graham and I were speaking earlier of Sean's cool idea of del.icio.us linkblogging
[10:40:52 PM] Alexander Hayes says: [9:37:26 PM] Graham Wegner says: So is Sean's linkblog a collection of everything he contributes to on the web?
[9:38:49 PM] Alexander Hayes says: I guess so or perhaps that by treating the space as a place rather than what it was semantically geared topwards he's pushing the domain of "blogging " further
[9:39:34 PM] Alexander Hayes says: Sean also syndicates the script in del.icio.us to propogate into his wordpress entity which I imagine co-authors his SL bloghud
[10:41:19 PM] Graham Wegner says: ha - remixing a conversation for the benefit of newcomers
[10:41:20 PM] Alexander Hayes says: the concept of using the descriptive meta-data field ( if you will) as more of an uthoring space than a brief descriptor
[10:41:26 PM] Barbara Dieu says: I think the problem is time to read it all
[10:41:31 PM] Alexander Hayes says: but why read blogs when I can listen to podcasts and get more information
[10:41:41 PM] Sue Waters says: exactly
[10:41:42 PM] Barbara Dieu says: I never listen to podcasts
[10:41:48 PM] Alexander Hayes says: like Sue says here perhaps it's about the medium's
[10:41:49 PM] Barbara Dieu says: I fall asleep
[10:41:56 PM] Alexander Hayes says: I never read blogs
[10:41:58 PM] Alexander Hayes says: lol
[10:42:02 PM] Sue Waters says: not if you have to drive 50 minutes each way
[10:42:10 PM] Alexander Hayes says: I look for cool links and good pic's
[10:42:13 PM] Barbara Dieu says: I prefer to listen to the radio
[10:42:13 PM] Sue Waters says: how can you never read blogs if you blog
[10:42:31 PM] Alexander Hayes says: fact is I have a ten minute rideon the bus to work and podcasts need to be snappy
[10:42:32 PM] Sue Waters says: After 2 hours of radio a day I would rather multitask
[10:42:36 PM] Barbara Dieu says: when I am in the car
[10:42:47 PM] Graham Wegner says: skim and then read the good stuff
[10:42:47 PM] Alexander Hayes says: is that an internet radio Barb ?
[10:42:55 PM] Sue Waters says: My point about the length of the podcast where is steph -
[10:42:58 PM] Barbara Dieu says: I like the unpredictability of the radio
[10:43:01 PM] Alexander Hayes says: ah - there's that term again - skim
[10:43:04 PM] Graham Wegner says: podcasts are hard to fit into my day
[10:43:16 PM] Alexander Hayes says: sheesh - now that's why I like you attitude Barbara
[10:43:20 PM] Sue Waters says: Yes but you miss the good stuff --- take Anne Paterson's blog
[10:43:24 PM] Alexander Hayes says: it's like controlled hit and miss
[10:43:32 PM] Alexander Hayes says: I didnt miss it
[10:43:47 PM] Alexander Hayes says: she' SMS'd me then I hear about it via a podcast
[10:44:09 PM] Sue Waters says: what the?
[10:44:13 PM] Graham Wegner says: and if you have a small group of must reads, they pick up the stuff you might miss because they are trusted nodes on your network
[10:44:36 PM] Alexander Hayes says: contributeparticipatelearn
[10:44:48 PM] Alexander Hayes says: sure do graham
[10:45:02 PM] Sue Waters says: Sorry I want all my informatio to the point - -
[10:45:03 PM] Alexander Hayes says: Bbrbara how many blogs do u have ?
[10:45:04 PM] Barbara Dieu says: although I am into blogging
[10:45:11 PM] Alexander Hayes says: also shows how unimportant gramma, spelling and punctuation are ultimately to communication
[10:00:14 PM] Alexander Hayes says: absolutcritically
[10:00:33 PM] Alexander Hayes says: we all need good mole rodels
[10:01:30 PM] Graham Wegner says: but the flipside is we are consciously mangling language while kids w/out the skills don't have that awareness
[10:45:20 PM] Barbara Dieu says: blogging is not my primary occupation
[10:45:39 PM] Barbara Dieu says: so do not need to be that updated with the latest news
[10:45:48 PM] Alexander Hayes says: is it having an effect on the way we communicate or are we eolving as humans to acoomodate the change
[10:45:48 PM] Barbara Dieu says: just blog for myself really
[10:45:49 PM] Sue Waters says: What is your primary occupation?
[10:46:02 PM] Barbara Dieu says: I am a secondary school teacher for the time being
[10:46:03 PM] Alexander Hayes says: Artist
[10:46:12 PM] Alexander Hayes says: Graham ...
[10:46:12 PM] Barbara Dieu says: almost retiring
[10:46:13 PM] Sue Waters says: Who is the artist
[10:46:19 PM] Alexander Hayes says: me
[10:46:20 PM] Graham Wegner says: primary school teacher and ict coordinator
[10:46:24 PM] Barbara Dieu says: then maybe I will take to blogging seriously
[10:46:30 PM] Alexander Hayes says: then Educator
[10:46:38 PM] Alexander Hayes says: then Teacher
[10:46:42 PM] Barbara Dieu says: I have had millions of blogs
[10:46:47 PM] Alexander Hayes says: hehe
[10:46:48 PM] Sue Waters says: I personnally think you are or aren't a blogger
[10:46:50 PM] Alexander Hayes says: love it
[10:46:51 PM] Barbara Dieu says: which I imported to my own intall of wordpress
[10:47:04 PM] Alexander Hayes says: how did they all go for u B ?
[10:47:13 PM] Barbara Dieu says: because I was fed up with chasing them around the web
[10:47:18 PM] Alexander Hayes says: looks like Sean's done the same
[10:47:22 PM] Barbara Dieu says: it worked beautifully
[10:47:35 PM] Barbara Dieu says: but not for the pics or videos obviously
[10:47:45 PM] Barbara Dieu says: those which were hosted on blogger
[10:47:55 PM] Alexander Hayes says: but has it solved the issue for you
[10:48:01 PM] Barbara Dieu says: no pb with the ones on Flickr and direct links
[10:48:05 PM] Barbara Dieu says: so now I have two blogs
[10:48:12 PM] Graham Wegner says: see Leigh has purposely done the opposite and left blogs all over the place.
[10:48:17 PM] Barbara Dieu says: one personal wordpress personal install
[10:48:24 PM] Alexander Hayes says: are you not afraid that it will crash and people will be lrft with an expansive past and a narrow present ?
[10:48:25 PM] Barbara Dieu says: and one wordpress.com for the class
[10:48:40 PM] Barbara Dieu says: what will crash?
[10:48:47 PM] Alexander Hayes says: the primary site
[10:49:04 PM] Alexander Hayes says: could or did yopu leave them all pointing to the primary site ?
[10:49:15 PM] Barbara Dieu says: oh..if it does I will retrieve my posts in the internet archive wayback machine..lol
[10:49:28 PM] Alexander Hayes says: I'm intersted to know if Sue's thought of how to spread the word
[10:49:50 PM] Barbara Dieu says: I left a post in every old blog saying I was moving the stuff over the new one
[10:49:52 PM] Alexander Hayes says: way way back
[10:49:54 PM] Barbara Dieu says: and linked
[10:50:02 PM] Sue Waters says: Podcasting
[10:50:03 PM] Graham Wegner says: don't think wayback works for edublogs.org
[10:50:10 PM] Barbara Dieu says: why not?
[10:50:14 PM] Alexander Hayes says: ok so that covers that but missproffe is coming at it differently
[10:50:20 PM] Sue Waters says: I have the most hits and reputation from my podcast site
[10:50:22 PM] Alexander Hayes says: she's speaking of the "voice"
[10:50:33 PM] Barbara Dieu says: oh..I have no voice whatsoever
[10:50:37 PM] Alexander Hayes says: of an educator and then sperstely from a personal perspective
[10:50:52 PM] Barbara Dieu says: as I said
[10:50:58 PM] Barbara Dieu says: I do not write for an audience
[10:51:00 PM] Alexander Hayes says: like one blog for school and then one for home
[10:51:03 PM] Sue Waters says: No one knew about the work we are doing until I started podcasting even though I have blogs and wikis
[10:51:07 PM] Alexander Hayes says: like never the twain shall meet
[10:51:22 PM] Alexander Hayes says: why's that Sue ?
[10:51:43 PM] Alexander Hayes says: is that what happens with your blog creations at school Graham ?
[10:52:11 PM] Alexander Hayes says: oooh - reputation
[10:52:20 PM] Barbara Dieu says: http://lycee.wordpress.com is my school blog - there I just post for my stds as a way of modelling
[10:52:41 PM] Alexander Hayes says: good point Barbara - mole rodels
[10:53:07 PM] Barbara Dieu says: moles and rodents
[10:53:07 PM] Alexander Hayes says: imagine if the first things we started students with was del.icio.us
[10:53:20 PM] Barbara Dieu says: mine have opened an account
[10:53:21 PM] Graham Wegner says: yeah I don't blog from school - that way if there was any issue I can say it was on my own time
[10:53:31 PM] Barbara Dieu says: but have not yet introduced them to it
[10:53:37 PM] Alexander Hayes says: and they were encoraged to "write" their story consecutively
[10:53:48 PM] Barbara Dieu says: their story?
[10:53:53 PM] Alexander Hayes says: using links and meta-matter
[10:54:30 PM] Alexander Hayes says: research into a topic that began with a links that "spoke" of some content then the next link led to more elaborations on the point
[10:55:00 PM] Alexander Hayes says: I tend to look at people bookmark sites like blogs in themself now that Sean's pointed it out
[10:55:01 PM] Graham Wegner says: with younger kids i think what is important is the chance to connect and communicate with others in other places on the globe - that's what is impossible to do w/out technology
[10:55:22 PM] Barbara Dieu says: agree with you
[10:55:27 PM] Sue Waters says: Because maybe there are too many blogs and people can relate to the podcasts?>
[10:55:28 PM] Alexander Hayes says: I'll tell you a story different;y
[10:55:44 PM] Barbara Dieu says: teens need other teens
[10:55:53 PM] Alexander Hayes says: my daughter made 1000 paper cranes and sent them to my sister by mail in Japan
[10:55:56 PM] Barbara Dieu says: podcasts for me are way too long
[10:56:06 PM] Barbara Dieu says: lovely
[10:56:13 PM] Alexander Hayes says: each paper crane was a "feeling" story....short prose on the inside
[10:56:17 PM] Sue Waters says: depoends on the podcast
[10:56:40 PM] Barbara Dieu says: I am not a good reference Sue
[10:56:55 PM] Alexander Hayes says: my sister sent back 1000 paper cranes with 1000 "feeling" stories from each student in her school
[10:57:02 PM] Barbara Dieu says: exchanging objects with meaning
[10:57:11 PM] Barbara Dieu says: I have done cultural capsules
[10:57:16 PM] Alexander Hayes says: total cost = $10 US
[10:57:16 PM] Barbara Dieu says: among schools
[10:57:18 PM] Barbara Dieu says: much fun
[10:57:31 PM] Alexander Hayes says: hey - now thats a good technology
[10:58:18 PM] Barbara Dieu says: with boxes full of local chewing gum, postcards, photos and stationery
[10:58:25 PM] Alexander Hayes says: verfy cool
[10:58:27 PM] Barbara Dieu says: but these cost me a bit more than 10 US
[10:58:34 PM] Graham Wegner says: what blogging does is create opportunities that I can leverage for my class potentially
[10:58:42 PM] Alexander Hayes says: perhaps we could think of something to send to our respective leatrners like Graham did
[10:58:58 PM] Graham Wegner says: what did i send?
[10:59:05 PM] Alexander Hayes says: images of students drawings of how mobile phones could be used
[10:59:08 PM] Alexander Hayes says: in class
[10:59:19 PM] Graham Wegner says: that's right
[10:59:32 PM] Alexander Hayes says: as literacy tools
[10:59:45 PM] Barbara Dieu says: asking stds how technology could be used in class
[10:59:52 PM] Alexander Hayes says: they were pictures but sheesh they said so much
[10:59:53 PM] Barbara Dieu says: and asking them to draw it
[11:00:07 PM] Alexander Hayes says: could they be sent as cultural podcasts Suie
[11:00:14 PM] Alexander Hayes says: not racially specific
[11:00:29 PM] Alexander Hayes says: nor geographically specific
[11:00:34 PM] Barbara Dieu says: there was a nice cultural podcast exchange among stds
[11:00:44 PM] Barbara Dieu says: where they asked general cultural questions
[11:00:48 PM] Barbara Dieu says: and the others answered
[11:00:54 PM] Barbara Dieu says: according to their countries
[11:00:56 PM] Alexander Hayes says: could the same be done using a del.icio.us site ?
[11:01:03 PM] Barbara Dieu says: let me check the address
[11:01:26 PM] Alexander Hayes says: like a collaborative blog that many people can tag in and continue a story for eventual publication ?
[11:01:31 PM] Alexander Hayes says: cool
[11:01:40 PM] Barbara Dieu says: this exists already
[11:01:47 PM] Barbara Dieu says: in Spanish
[11:01:51 PM] Alexander Hayes says: wow
[11:01:55 PM] Barbara Dieu says: a friend of my son's is behind it
[11:02:00 PM] Alexander Hayes says: show me so I can learn
[11:02:07 PM] Barbara Dieu says: a bit like borges garden of forking paths
[11:02:11 PM] Graham Wegner says: http://www.bubbleshare.com/album/93869.fdb66b7a6ce
[11:02:12 PM] Alexander Hayes says: have you heard of similar Sue ?
[11:02:20 PM] Barbara Dieu says: escribeme.org
[11:02:29 PM] Barbara Dieu says: http://escribeme.org
[11:02:44 PM] Barbara Dieu says: someone starts a story
[11:02:49 PM] Alexander Hayes says: fantastic - thanks Graham...there up!!!
[11:02:57 PM] Alexander Hayes says: how cool Barbara
[11:03:01 PM] Barbara Dieu says: the others contribute with a paragraph and vote for the best
[11:03:10 PM] Barbara Dieu says: then the story continues
[11:03:28 PM] Alexander Hayes says: can we start something similar that links across many platforms
[11:05:16 PM] Alexander Hayes says: or sets the scene for debates which could be "seen " and "heard" mixing synchron ous with a-synchronous
[11:05:25 PM] Alexander Hayes says: like this
[11:05:32 PM] Alexander Hayes says: 160Characters
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[11:05:38 PM] Barbara Dieu says: ouch
[11:05:54 PM] Alexander Hayes says: a bit of poetry but given links has legs
[11:06:23 PM] Graham Wegner says: and he says he doesn't read blogs :O
[11:06:30 PM] Alexander Hayes says: lol
[11:06:42 PM] Alexander Hayes says: (sweat)
[11:06:49 PM] Barbara Dieu says: he just links to them
[11:06:59 PM] Sue Waters says: Sorry being multitasking talking to husband, organising work and organising a work for someone else....what was the question>
[11:07:18 PM] Alexander Hayes says: whats your blogroll poetry script look like?
[11:07:23 PM] Alexander Hayes says: hehe
[11:07:29 PM] Barbara Dieu says: I have no blogroll
[11:07:35 PM] Barbara Dieu says: :(
[11:07:59 PM] Barbara Dieu says: just bloglines..with about 1200 subscriptions
[11:08:07 PM] Barbara Dieu says: or more
[11:08:12 PM] Alexander Hayes says: same
[11:08:15 PM] Barbara Dieu says: and delicious
[11:08:21 PM] Barbara Dieu says: with a network
[11:08:27 PM] Alexander Hayes says: this is how many blogs I helped set up last semester
[11:08:29 PM] Barbara Dieu says: funny nobody uses the delicious network
[11:08:33 PM] Alexander Hayes says: ScreenCasts
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[11:08:38 PM] Alexander Hayes says: I use it
[11:08:50 PM] Barbara Dieu says: do I have you?
[11:08:56 PM] Barbara Dieu says: noty sure
[11:09:12 PM] Alexander Hayes says: it's interesting when you consider and read the titles they chose to be known as
[11:09:13 PM] Graham Wegner says: i look in on my network all the time on delicious
[11:09:19 PM] Alexander Hayes says: del.icio.us/alexanderhayes
[11:09:31 PM] Sue Waters says: What do you mean Graham>
[11:09:52 PM] Barbara Dieu says: http://mfr.podomatic.com/
[11:10:05 PM] Barbara Dieu says: this is the cultural podcast I was talking about
[11:10:43 PM] Alexander Hayes says: very cool
[11:10:46 PM] Alexander Hayes says: thankyou
[11:10:58 PM] Barbara Dieu says: a teacher from Portugal organized it
[11:11:03 PM] Barbara Dieu says: we took part in it
[11:11:06 PM] Graham Wegner says: i mean my network, the list of people on the right bhand side who form my network, i can view all of the latest postings to delcious and see what they are looking at
[11:11:12 PM] Barbara Dieu says: but all this is very sporadic
[11:11:17 PM] Sue Waters says: Did you know that talking is better than texting?
[11:11:35 PM] Barbara Dieu says: and at school we cannot open all these tools
[11:11:45 PM] Barbara Dieu says: like odeo,podomatic and others
[11:11:54 PM] Barbara Dieu says: because of the security of the network
[11:12:02 PM] Barbara Dieu says: so it is a time consuming activity
[11:12:05 PM] Alexander Hayes says: or that one like speaks a thousand words
[11:12:11 PM] Barbara Dieu says: recording kids in class
[11:12:11 PM] Alexander Hayes says: http://del.icio.us/alexanderhayes/system:imported
[11:12:20 PM] Barbara Dieu says: then taking the recordings home
[11:12:21 PM] Alexander Hayes says: same Graham
[11:12:22 PM] Sue Waters says: Yes and most Education set up do not have computers set up for audio
[11:12:24 PM] Barbara Dieu says: uploading them
[11:12:36 PM] Alexander Hayes says: it's an extensiv e and diverse way getting information around
[11:12:44 PM] Alexander Hayes says: I rarely Google anything anymore
[11:12:50 PM] Barbara Dieu says: mobiles would be wonderful
[11:12:56 PM] Barbara Dieu says: if not so expensive
[11:13:04 PM] Barbara Dieu says: we could boycott the school
[11:13:08 PM] Barbara Dieu says: altogether
[11:13:11 PM] Alexander Hayes says: agreed - it's a big rpoblem where you are sure
[11:13:15 PM] Alexander Hayes says: *sue*
[11:13:17 PM] Graham Wegner says: like heyjude has bookmarked 8 new sites in the last hour including a youtube video that Stephen Downes pointed to last year.
[11:13:32 PM] Alexander Hayes says: sheesh
[11:13:36 PM] Sue Waters says: Which is the problem?
[11:13:41 PM] Alexander Hayes says: thankgod for that tag button hey
[11:14:10 PM] Graham Wegner says: guys, got to go, thanks for the chat - alex, always a pleasure.
[11:14:11 PM] Alexander Hayes says: the fact that computers are seen to be text creators and web digests
[11:14:17 PM] Alexander Hayes says: not mutlimedia objects
[11:14:25 PM] Sue Waters says: Nice chating Graham
[11:14:32 PM] Alexander Hayes says: no worries - permissions - can we publish this
[11:14:34 PM] Alexander Hayes says: ?
[11:14:38 PM] Graham Wegner says: sure
[11:14:48 PM] Graham Wegner left this chat
[11:14:52 PM] Alexander Hayes says: this will be part two
[11:14:56 PM] Barbara Dieu says: we lost graham
[11:15:06 PM] Alexander Hayes says: and we gained the wolrld
[11:15:14 PM] Sue Waters says: Of how we lost Sue in the text conversation
[11:15:28 PM] Alexander Hayes says: hows things your way Barbara?
[11:15:43 PM] Alexander Hayes says: any hope on the horizon to escape the school centre
[11:16:21 PM] Barbara Dieu says: retiring this year
[11:16:30 PM] Alexander Hayes says: is there any real way to patch it together Sue ?
[11:16:35 PM] Alexander Hayes says: podcasts help
[11:16:43 PM] Alexander Hayes says: and will you travel
[11:16:55 PM] Sue Waters says: Patch all the blogs etc together?
[11:17:07 PM] Barbara Dieu says: have added you to my delicious network
[11:17:08 PM] Alexander Hayes says: thats what we try to do
[11:17:11 PM] Alexander Hayes says: hehe
[11:18:04 PM] Alexander Hayes says: I spent most of today trying to sort out this one bundle
[11:18:05 PM] Sue Waters says: So now is only me?
[11:18:10 PM] Alexander Hayes says: * 16 connectivisim
* 1 constructionism
* 3 constructionist
* 1 creativecommons
* 13 games
* 3 gaming
* 16 networkedlearning
* 8 pedagogy
* 1 PLE
* 1 sharelearningcontext
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* 12 teaching
* 39 technology
* 8 trends
[11:18:17 PM] Sue Waters says: in what
[11:18:22 PM] Sue Waters says: del.ic.ious
[11:18:32 PM] Alexander Hayes says: k ?
[11:18:38 PM] Alexander Hayes says: sounds good though
[11:18:50 PM] Alexander Hayes says: your podcasts fly around everywhere Sue
[11:19:02 PM] Alexander Hayes says: re-used, re-interpreted, re-published
[11:19:04 PM] Barbara Dieu says: I should get my list more organized
[11:19:13 PM] Barbara Dieu says: let me impress you
[11:19:16 PM] Sue Waters says: Where do they fly?
[11:19:22 PM] Alexander Hayes says: I should try and stop tagging as much and use it mor like a blog
[11:19:23 PM] Barbara Dieu says: All your items (148)

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[11:19:28 PM] Alexander Hayes says: shesh
[11:19:37 PM] Sue Waters says: You know you never get time to go back and read!
[11:19:41 PM] Barbara Dieu says: it is really disgusting
[11:19:49 PM] Barbara Dieu says: must get some order into that
[11:19:54 PM] Alexander Hayes says: thats awesome
[11:20:22 PM] Alexander Hayes says: imagine giving that list to a group of students and saying " construct a story using all those words pleas
[11:20:45 PM] Alexander Hayes says: it's elcronically mediated and humane computer orgANISED
[11:20:46 PM] Barbara Dieu says: this because you have not seen my other delicious accounts...lol
[11:20:49 PM] Alexander Hayes says: THE MACHINE IS USING US
[11:20:54 PM] Alexander Hayes says: WOOPS
[11:20:56 PM] Alexander Hayes says: CAPS
[11:21:01 PM] Alexander Hayes says: caps off
[11:21:13 PM] Alexander Hayes says: del.icio.us/mlearning
[11:21:20 PM] Alexander Hayes says: was another of mine
[11:21:36 PM] Barbara Dieu says: del.icio.us/wope07
[11:21:49 PM] Sue Waters says: tags
tagsalkalinity aquaculture Aquaculture, aquarium audacity audio blog Blogs Calculator, disease e-learning e-learning, education elearning elearning, embed example filtration freeware generator history howto html html, iPod java Kate library liming lms mlearning mobilewebsites mp3 NetGeneration parasites PDA Pedagogy pedalogy phone pocketpc podcast Podcast, Podcasting powerpoint presentation quality quiz quizzes, recording reference RSS SA skype slideshare software Statistics, system:unfiled tool tools tutorial ulearning video vodcast vodcasting Water web web2.0 Web2.0, webct westone wiki windows
[11:22:13 PM] Barbara Dieu says: del.icio.us/dekita
[11:22:21 PM] Alexander Hayes says: wow
[11:22:25 PM] Sue Waters says: http://del.icio.us/dswaters
[11:22:50 PM] Alexander Hayes says: just added you to my network
[11:22:53 PM] Alexander Hayes says: and Barbara
[11:23:01 PM] Sue Waters says: http://aquaculturepda.podomatic.com/
[11:23:02 PM] Alexander Hayes says: lets go write a story
[11:23:08 PM] Barbara Dieu says: but all the delicious accounts were opened because I did not know how to use tags
[11:23:13 PM] Sue Waters says: No lets record a podcast
[11:23:29 PM] Alexander Hayes says: or better still lets blog this and share it with missproffe
[11:23:38 PM] Alexander Hayes says: are you both up for it ?
[11:23:40 PM] Barbara Dieu says: hey...do you get mails with funny stories?
[11:23:48 PM] Barbara Dieu says: I get lots of them
[11:23:54 PM] Barbara Dieu says: throw them out
[11:23:58 PM] Alexander Hayes says: not often but they genrally having disgusting images attached
[11:24:00 PM] Barbara Dieu says: but some almost make sense
[11:24:05 PM] Sue Waters says: Sorry what does missproffe mean?
[11:24:11 PM] Alexander Hayes says: that the web filtering services eat of the email
[11:24:19 PM] Barbara Dieu says: it's as if a computer was writing them
[11:24:26 PM] Barbara Dieu says: out of words found at random
[11:24:33 PM] Barbara Dieu says: and pieced together
[11:24:41 PM] Barbara Dieu says: oulipo
[11:24:46 PM] Barbara Dieu says: raymond queneau
[11:25:04 PM] Alexander Hayes says: where we began this conversation
[11:25:06 PM] Barbara Dieu says: I need to read more
[11:25:08 PM] Alexander Hayes says: http://alexanderhayesblog.blogspot.com/2007/02/missprofe-blogging-paradigm.html
[11:25:21 PM] Alexander Hayes says: nice quote
[11:25:29 PM] Barbara Dieu says: what writers of the past said
[11:25:56 PM] Barbara Dieu says: instead of reading again and again the same thing bloggers say
[11:26:10 PM] Alexander Hayes says: and of the future we write cognisant of the dissonance of the past and array of networked learning ecologies of the presnet
[11:26:43 PM] Barbara Dieu says: to tell you the truth
[11:26:56 PM] Barbara Dieu says: I will stop blogging about education altogether
[11:27:10 PM] Alexander Hayes says: we will never read the same things twice provided we listen to our own hearts and remember to take on full breath in and out at l;east once a day
[11:27:19 PM] Alexander Hayes says: that would be nice
[11:27:30 PM] Alexander Hayes says: I've been attempting that for a longtime
[11:28:24 PM] Alexander Hayes says: As long as teaching
[11:28:25 PM] Barbara Dieu says: who is missprofe?
[11:28:33 PM] Alexander Hayes says: is only a profession
[11:28:57 PM] Alexander Hayes says: http://missprofe.wordpress.com/2007/02/17/the-separation-of-professional-and-personal-space/#comment-253
[11:28:59 PM] Barbara Dieu says: derek in one of the many forums I have been participating in
[11:29:14 PM] Barbara Dieu says: said he was going to give a presentation in wellington
[11:29:15 PM] Alexander Hayes says: , a means of livelehood
[11:29:17 PM] Sue Waters says: Why did Sean start with one really nice blog and then write short ones?
[11:29:20 PM] Barbara Dieu says: called fragments
[11:29:32 PM] Alexander Hayes says: and not a dedicated vocation
[11:29:36 PM] Barbara Dieu says: I thought that was a great idea for a presentation
[11:29:41 PM] Alexander Hayes says: then there is bound to be a wide gap
[11:29:53 PM] Alexander Hayes says: bewteen the world and ourselves
[11:30:16 PM] Alexander Hayes says: Krishnamurti 1895
[11:30:28 PM] Alexander Hayes says: sure would be a good presentation
[11:30:30 PM] Barbara Dieu says: we'd better go out there and live the world
[11:30:37 PM] Alexander Hayes says: agreed
[11:30:43 PM] Alexander Hayes says: still there Sue ?
[11:30:46 PM] Sue Waters says: Yes
[11:30:54 PM] Barbara Dieu says: but then we are attracted to the fragments we see here
[11:31:04 PM] Alexander Hayes says: Barabra and Suje can I have your permission to author this transcript please
[11:31:05 PM] Barbara Dieu says: and that bring more pieces to the puzzle
[11:31:17 PM] Alexander Hayes says: to bring more pieces to this puzzle
[11:31:17 PM] Barbara Dieu says: no pb
[11:31:30 PM] Sue Waters says: I don't think I have said anything intellgent tonight
[11:31:46 PM] Alexander Hayes says: neither have I but thats not for me to decide
[11:31:49 PM] Barbara Dieu says: Alex loves capturing fragments
[11:32:06 PM] Alexander Hayes says: only for others to digest and live by
[11:32:21 PM] Barbara Dieu says: I googled my name yesterday
[11:32:25 PM] Alexander Hayes says: it makes for a cool view
[11:32:30 PM] Sue Waters says: However I now know why you did not want to talk!!! because you wanted to record our text!!!!!!!!! Because you are not a podcaster?
[11:32:34 PM] Barbara Dieu says: and found a lot of posts I had made to a group
[11:32:40 PM] Barbara Dieu says: I had forgotten about
[11:32:46 PM] Alexander Hayes says: and did you find yourself or something other that the machine understaood of you ?
[11:33:00 PM] Alexander Hayes says: I found na site I killed ten years ago
[11:33:23 PM] Alexander Hayes says: I am all things and none of them have names...yet
[11:33:28 PM] Barbara Dieu says: I was impressed by my own wisdom at the time...lol
[11:33:32 PM] Alexander Hayes says: hehe
[11:33:45 PM] Alexander Hayes says: I've caught out bSue thinking the same of my podcasts
[11:33:48 PM] Barbara Dieu says: like retrieving papers from school and thinking..wow I wrote that?
[11:34:03 PM] Alexander Hayes says: rambles including the switch being turned on and off
[11:34:04 PM] Sue Waters says: Actually I like your podcasts
[11:34:10 PM] Alexander Hayes says: hehe
[11:34:18 PM] Alexander Hayes says: should see my paper5s I wrote for Uni
[11:34:37 PM] Alexander Hayes says: when I was writing my Doctoral pre-candidacy
[11:34:45 PM] Sue Waters says: missprofe this is not a real word!
[11:34:49 PM] Barbara Dieu says: I am better at typing than at talking
[11:35:07 PM] Alexander Hayes says: agreed - you can drink wine the same way I can though
[11:35:08 PM] Alexander Hayes says: :)
[11:35:22 PM] Barbara Dieu says: I usually drink the words :)
[11:35:53 PM] Barbara Dieu says: and when there are much too many swimming in my head I cry them out
[11:35:54 PM] Alexander Hayes says: and I cry and speak of ghosts and snow geese
[11:36:03 PM] Alexander Hayes says: I moblog them
[11:36:27 PM] Barbara Dieu says: maybe I need a mobile after all
[11:36:30 PM] Alexander Hayes says: http://www.moblog.co.uk/blog/alexanderhayes
[11:36:46 PM] Sue Waters says: Forget the mobile then you have to talk to people
[11:36:52 PM] Alexander Hayes says: or perhaps http://www.moblog.co.uk/blog/mobdeadly
[11:37:01 PM] Barbara Dieu says: bring them together
[11:37:16 PM] Barbara Dieu says: I cannot talk to many people at the same time
[11:37:32 PM] Alexander Hayes says: Engageme
tofulord's moblog
wroxhamhall's moblog
MobloBro06
Life n Times of Nasser
sharonsmanythoughts's moblog
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[11:37:37 PM] Barbara Dieu says: shoot
[11:37:39 PM] Alexander Hayes says: like this ?
[11:37:47 PM] Alexander Hayes says: my students moblogs
[11:37:47 PM] Barbara Dieu says: you are a show off Alex
[11:37:48 PM] Sue Waters says: Actually you know it is really nice when there is complete silence'
[11:38:04 PM] Alexander Hayes says: agreed - silence is golden
[11:38:30 PM] Sue Waters says: Except for the lovely hum of the computer
[11:38:38 PM] Alexander Hayes says: time for others to savour the hum
[11:39:03 PM] Alexander Hayes says: it's almost midnite and I have htree online presnetations and four meetings in ten hours time
[11:39:20 PM] Barbara Dieu says: complete silence allows satori to set in
[11:39:22 PM] Barbara Dieu says: gogogo
[11:39:26 PM] Sue Waters says: good suffer - I was stuffed after the other night!
[11:40:09 PM] Barbara Dieu says: kensho really http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kensho
[11:40:37 PM] Alexander Hayes says: check my blog / blog/ blogger / blogged / blogging in two minutes time . It will be title "The Other Half : Education and the Significance of the Blogging "
[11:40:56 PM] Alexander Hayes says: ta - I feel better already
[11:41:00 PM] Barbara Dieu says: twas good talking to you..now I am going to have my morning shower, correct some homework and tests
[11:41:09 PM] Alexander Hayes says: nice blogging with you both and all the others reading this
[11:41:12 PM] Barbara Dieu says: and prepare lunch for hubby
[11:41:13 PM] Sue Waters says: But if it is significant why do our students not take it up
[11:41:27 PM] Sue Waters says: Nice chatting to you Barbara
[11:41:31 PM] Barbara Dieu says: because they have zillions of other things in life to do
[11:41:34 PM] Alexander Hayes says: because we have to mole rodel it first
[11:41:59 PM] Barbara Dieu says: they are mole rodelling it for us
[11:42:00 PM] Alexander Hayes says: :)
[11:42:06 PM] Sue Waters says: No they just want the simplest tool for the job - has to be relevant and meaningful to what they are doing
[11:42:14 PM] Barbara Dieu says: we are too stupid not to accept it
[11:42:20 PM] Alexander Hayes says: which is living and loving and leaving
[11:42:28 PM] Barbara Dieu says: teachers will be teachers
[11:42:37 PM] Alexander Hayes says: students will be teachers
[11:42:45 PM] Barbara Dieu says: hope not
[11:42:45 PM] Sue Waters says: definitely
[11:42:48 PM] Alexander Hayes says: (are)
[11:42:55 PM] Alexander Hayes says: hehe
[11:42:58 PM] Sue Waters says: I am always learning from them
[11:43:03 PM] Alexander Hayes says: the progressive poets
[11:43:07 PM] Alexander Hayes says: same
[11:43:09 PM] Barbara Dieu says: because they are not teachers
[11:43:20 PM] Barbara Dieu says: this is why you learn
[11:43:29 PM] Alexander Hayes says: artists make chaos out of meaning
[11:43:37 PM] Alexander Hayes says: students make meaning out of cahos
[11:43:54 PM] Barbara Dieu says: alex is inspired tonight :)
[11:44:13 PM] Sue Waters says: I think he has been reading the EDNA posts and this is his response?
[11:44:14 PM] Alexander Hayes says: yes
[11:44:28 PM] Sue Waters says: Yes to inspired or EDNA?
[11:44:31 PM] Alexander Hayes says: it's been a long day and I've been driving for a while now
[11:44:41 PM] Alexander Hayes says: it's time to do some par carking
[11:44:47 PM] Barbara Dieu says: go and run in the park
[11:45:13 PM] Alexander Hayes says: Emotional Divisions Not Actuated
[11:45:56 PM] Alexander Hayes says: ......and that brings us to a close
[11:45:58 PM] Alexander Hayes says: :)
[11:45:58 PM] Barbara Dieu says: do not know what EDNA is but it does seem to be sparking a lot of electricy among the members
[11:46:12 PM] Sue Waters says: Are you a member?
[11:46:19 PM] Barbara Dieu says: no
[11:46:21 PM] Alexander Hayes says: dont
[11:46:29 PM] Alexander Hayes says: go
[11:46:29 PM] Barbara Dieu says: not my beach as we say it here in Brazil
[11:46:31 PM] Alexander Hayes says: there
[11:46:42 PM] Alexander Hayes says: although
[11:46:49 PM] Alexander Hayes says: it was where I was born
[11:46:52 PM] Alexander Hayes says: electronically
[11:46:54 PM] Sue Waters says: Yes Alex - you know there has been some interesting posts this month - even if someone said they would not post
[11:47:09 PM] Alexander Hayes says: who was that ?
[11:47:13 PM] Sue Waters says: you!
[11:47:18 PM] Alexander Hayes says: Madam Axewell ?
[11:47:24 PM] Sue Waters says: At least I am true to form!
[11:47:35 PM] Alexander Hayes says: I've been sin binned
[11:47:34 PM] Sue Waters says: I have been lurking and following the leads!
[11:47:35 PM] Barbara Dieu says: I will leave you to the local gossip and get my shower
[11:47:40 PM] Barbara Dieu says: ciao4now
[11:47:41 PM] Alexander Hayes says: hehe
[11:47:46 PM] Sue Waters says: Seya
[11:47:47 PM] Alexander Hayes says: c u soon Barbara
[11:47:56 PM] Alexander Hayes says: greating blogging with you as always
[11:48:16 PM] Alexander Hayes says: it's all for the greater good
[11:48:31 PM] Alexander Hayes says: even if it's achallenge and taking me out of my comfort zone
[11:48:34 PM] Sue Waters says: Is blogging though for the greater good
[11:48:42 PM] Barbara Dieu says: if you say it, who am I to differ?
[11:48:49 PM] Alexander Hayes says: definetly is ........watch this.....

missprofe : Blogging Paradigms or e-Ciphering in Lagtime

The dilemna of having too many blogs has never really been an issue for me rather how to avoid treating them as my "book".

I've got a zillion ways of saying the same thing however I'm discovering a little more of late on how to avoid the usual hiccups of stale air and petulance and it's got me to thinking. This big page forces me to fill it. A Wordpress text field is even bigger.

The del.icio.us field is an interesting space though and Sean's linkblog is a great example of how we could use this in an educational context. I'm liking his new blog mainly for it's 'core" value - one-stop.

It's interesting also that the need for a bigger text field and the ultimate PLE still comes into play. It's a bit like have set of Encyclopedia Brittanica's and nowhere to burn them in......some much info. and yet so redundant in form until you think of content creatively.

Skype can be used to the same effect ........

[9:31:20 PM] Alexander Hayes says: got a minute ?
[9:32:11 PM] Graham Wegner says: Yep.
[9:32:28 PM] Alexander Hayes says: just wondering.....
[9:32:38 PM] Alexander Hayes says: how many blogs do you author too ?
[9:33:03 PM] Alexander Hayes says: have you seen Sean Fitgerald's linkblog ?
[9:33:14 PM] Graham Wegner says: Just two - if you don't count mApplications, where I've only contributed a handful of posts.
[9:33:31 PM] Graham Wegner says: No, haven't seen Sean's.
[9:33:34 PM] Alexander Hayes says: http://del.icio.us/seanfitz/mylinkblog
[9:33:45 PM] Alexander Hayes says: I like the idea
[9:33:57 PM] Graham Wegner says: just checking it now
[9:34:14 PM] Alexander Hayes says: the concept of using the descriptive meta-data field ( if you will) as more of an uthoring space than a brief descriptor
[9:34:31 PM] Graham Wegner says: just chatting to Tom Barrett in another window so excuse the delay in answers
[9:34:37 PM] Alexander Hayes says: kid of gives th YouTube movie of late some creedence
[9:34:42 PM] Alexander Hayes says: no worries
[9:35:13 PM] Alexander Hayes says: I'm blogging to three differing blogs, commenting on missprofe ( and you ) and Skyping with Sue Waters in WA
[9:35:30 PM] Alexander Hayes says: and doing my tax
[9:35:32 PM] Graham Wegner says: ah, you're a better mulittasker than me
[9:35:45 PM] Alexander Hayes says: nah
[9:35:52 PM] Graham Wegner says: Joanne just asked if I actually do any schoolwork on this laptop!
[9:36:29 PM] Alexander Hayes says: when you have more than one blog and a zillion authoring spaces you can begin semantically using authoring the net as a presence forum rather than a "book"
[9:37:03 PM] Alexander Hayes says: my boss Robyn's on my work computer at the mo so I'm here blogging ( authoring ) via the LG
[9:37:26 PM] Graham Wegner says: So is Sean's linkblog a collection of everything he contributes to on the web?
[9:38:49 PM] Alexander Hayes says: I guess so or perhaps that by treating the space as a place rather than what it was semantically geared topwards he's pushing the domain of "blogging " further
[9:39:34 PM] Alexander Hayes says: Sean also syndicates the script in del.icio.us to propogate into his wordpress entity which I imagine co-authors his SL bloghud
[9:41:07 PM] Graham Wegner says: I thought Sean pulled the plug on blogging - he did have an elgg account
[9:41:42 PM] Alexander Hayes says: he did and then found a better way of going about it.....how about this idea
[9:42:06 PM] Graham Wegner says: SL - boy, I struggle with that concept in the primary school.
[9:42:31 PM] Alexander Hayes says: set up kids with del.icio.us accounts FIRST, then get them to contribute to collaborative Flickr accounts only using screen snaps in SL
[9:43:04 PM] Alexander Hayes says: imagine the nexus between the virtual domain and the lack of immediate literacy ( text ) that would be demanded of the child
[9:43:05 PM] Graham Wegner says: wow - three filtered sites at once!
[9:43:30 PM] Alexander Hayes says: the need to descirbe things becomes less important
[9:43:52 PM] Alexander Hayes says: the filtering is a net-linking effect
[9:44:17 PM] Graham Wegner says: I think I'm lost now...
[9:44:41 PM] Alexander Hayes says: the social domain of del.icio.us is brought into the fore rather that swags of boring text and filler being used which frightens most of us (and the learners of course )
[9:45:18 PM] Alexander Hayes says: less text, more tagging, more localised research, more links - bigger communities
[9:45:37 PM] Graham Wegner says: the community is the big lure for anyone
[9:46:07 PM] Alexander Hayes says: sure is particularly when we can interact with them in multi-modality
[9:46:36 PM] Graham Wegner says: explain multi-modality to me pls
[9:46:44 PM] Alexander Hayes says: as an SL avatar, a del.iciou.us linkblogger, a Flickr citizen journalist
[9:47:01 PM] Alexander Hayes says: the platform is simply a means to an end
[9:47:16 PM] Alexander Hayes says: Flickr to document on the run and show the world reality
[9:47:34 PM] Graham Wegner says: like multiple identities but the same learner
[9:48:13 PM] Alexander Hayes says: or same identity , multiple learner
[9:48:19 PM] Alexander Hayes says: hey that sounds more like it
[9:48:31 PM] Graham Wegner says: that's better
[9:48:38 PM] Alexander Hayes says: sure is
[9:48:41 PM] Alexander Hayes says: in fact
[9:48:48 PM] Alexander Hayes says: check this out
[9:48:53 PM] Alexander Hayes says: ready for it ?
[9:48:58 PM] Graham Wegner says: hey, your bed is booked at the Wegner hotel for Thurs 8th March.
[9:49:19 PM] Alexander Hayes says: wicked and thankyou
[9:49:28 PM] Alexander Hayes says: booking fares next payday
[9:49:47 PM] Alexander Hayes says: I think we'd better share this little convo.
[9:50:06 PM] Graham Wegner says: pardon?
[9:50:12 PM] Alexander Hayes says: it will complement what missprofe was speaking of
[9:50:45 PM] Alexander Hayes says: the link of hers at [edited]
[9:50:58 PM] Graham Wegner says: right
[9:51:10 PM] Graham Wegner says: She's a pretty cool blog
[9:51:16 PM] Alexander Hayes says: absolutely
[9:51:38 PM] Alexander Hayes says: do I have permission to share our Skype blog with missprofe and the owrld at large ?
[9:51:46 PM] Alexander Hayes says: *world*
[9:51:56 PM] Graham Wegner says: i like that she's a move away from the ict geek teacher crowd and more where blogging should be in education.
[9:52:05 PM] Graham Wegner says: which skype blog?

This one.

Wordpress

Greetings.

I've got issue here trying to import my Blogger posts into WP. I'm getting a failure notice which states ;

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Any hints on how to rectify this issue ?

Cheers.

Replicator

These two articles are worth reconsideration;

a. ) one

b.) two

Aussie Culture : My Lebanese Family

I had the privilege of being invited to a family wedding on the weekend held in traditional Lebanese wedding style and form and I can only but say I was stunned with everything - the beauty, the generosity, the love and breadth of this amazing Aussie cultural event.

Hundreds of people, hundreds of kids.

The whole event really has got me thinking again about the beautiful ways in which Australian culture adopts, adapts to and grows with the many cultures of the world. I grew up in a narrow culturally lacking bigoted group of teenage thugs. To meet with men my own age and to think of the disastorous things that occured in the Shire in the early 80's........and then again in the not so distant dark past.

Such beauty.......such beautiful things have grown from times of angst and lack of understanding. I do hope our unions make for a strong nation and that we consider how to love one another and live with grace and with respect. My Blip.Tv account shows some of the amazing dancing I learnt at the leileya.

Only one event marred the night's reception. Me. I objected to a racially motivated hate comment at my table and took the offending party outside and corrected the offender - verbally although my limits of dark Celt had been reached.

I must concentrate on beauty.

The sublime runs too deep.

It's Orange country.

Willmob Ever Blog Again ?

This is my favourite blog in the whole world at the moment.

For me this blog sums up the attitude of some rare educators who make the effort despite all the resistance and discouragement of their peers and kin-folk.

Check it out. It will either compel you to laugh or cry.

Dang :-)

Coaches, Carnivals and Cock Heads

It's evident that the flavour to savour at least till October in the southern hemisphere-city of milk and money is mdashlearning.

Given that other sources are about as dry as the over-arching matraich's proverbial, it's a sure hit parade for coaches and conundramata to suck on the global nipple of transmissable electronica, to parade innovation as a set-top-box of cool fools and maggot infested short skirte3d short-sightedness.

Then there is the silence. The lack of contribution to those communities that fueled pre-research competitive honeypots.

Heaven help those roped into Sharepoints and LMS alleyways that screw-over whats left of any morsel of pre-election mdash ministerials. I'm not interested in your hollow invitations, your sheer sneer, your boring-as-batcrap claptrap of personal digital assonance.

Print this and stick it fair square.

Your posturings, post free-wi-fi, will be no more revered than the ice-blue tutu you buried in your mammies prom queen cupboard. I despise your lead , your bleed and your greed.

Ensure your stone is set to 24 degrees.

Failing that, re-invent yourself...when it suits you to do so.

The next round will see you reeling.

An ode to e-yearning.

Mobile Skype

...........complete with Skype connection issues and other anomolies.

Chairman Mao ?

Thank goodness this years politic will be booted out shortly.

"....Yesterday Mr Howard said Dr Donnelly's book made a "very big point" about the danger of so-called "progressive" theories and education fads.

"Where Big Brother or a text message jostles with Shakespeare and classical literature for a place in the English curriculum, we are robbing children of their cultural heritage," he said. "

Hello ?

Cuddles The Rabbit

My daughter Amelia Manon and I made this a while back......amazing how digital stories mediated by an eight year old speak so cogently;

Click To Play

Cuddles the Rabbit by Amelia Manon Hayes.

Un-Learning : The Effects of my Social Re-Conditioning

I'm enjoying logging in via Google.

Pretty soon I expect that privilege in my workplace may not be a reality so I may have to revert to my "secure" server.

Till then the story goes on and I continue to try and find ways to convince those who care to listen for a moment or two about the power of the networked and worldwide web. As a teacher in itself.

The worlds largest machine. Something that wont go away. Conditioning me to think otherwise is pointless and I've spent far too long buried in capability building projects that would suggest that this learning is both empowering and relevant.

As for "un-learning ", as a concept, as a term, as a reference point or as a way to define a process here's some thoughts which I've dropped into weblogg- ed as follows;

"....The notion of "un-learning" in itself bothers me.

I'm taken with all the ways in which you posit "un-learning" as a term to positively build accord with educators seeking ways out of the bureaucratic process of learning however ......

There seems to be something implied that we need to remove learning and replace it with another form or action or indeed terminology to re-authenticate that which went before, for the better good of those who had experienced it.

I'm more of the opinion that one occurs and the other shapes and finds function for it. No sooner than it takes shape then the other finds ways to re-frame the former.

It is grounded in human behaviour or some would say in networked technology that is begining to think for itself. Maybe it's what some are defining as technology-driven user learning experience, complete with an anonymous avatarian dependent user interface - faceless yet inextricably desirable.

Number crunching and money spinning.

Personally, and with great respect to your ideals of what constitutes a healthy learning environment, my take is that "un-learning" is reductionist in inference, conditional and seeking to forge new traits in individuals to challenge their present reality.

All good if indeed the learning that's incurred is in no ways sought of by the imposing value or system seeking it's removal.

Particularly in an environment which learners themselves regard the provision of mediated electronic and practical experience as redundant. Not reflexcive of their understandings of the world at large.

My take on learning however is that its grounded in a reality, often subject to ridiculous variants in context where individuals may break ranks, cross floors, disrupt and interject and generally appear to be "un-learning" if I dare coin the term for only this one occasion.

I'm all for new ways of working but not at the expense of learning experiences irrespective of how I choose to frame them in the now. Garunteed in ten years from now I'll have reframed them differently again as will others.

Divorce has taught me so much about what marraige entails. Death has unravelled much about life itself.

To find ways to "un-learn" either would be negating something quite beautiful and sublime all in the same instant.

The concept governing the casting of the shackles that threaten to stifle learning is in my opinion more on the money. Not learning in itself - no matter what the result nor how tedious the process.

The process of learning sure can be seen in as much ripping down the sand castle as building it however one does not follow the other - not always anyway.

Finding ways to "un-function" however, both as a term , as a reference point would be more in line with other pedagogical referencing floating in this vast e-ther of debate. I dont find "un-learning" at all strength based in it's form however "un-functioning" as well holds inference.

That might mean we would be giving up at a more base level and grounding ourselves as humans first before struggling to cast off what we had constructed to define ourselves as in the first place.

For me the whole premise of learning is fluid - learning is NOT the antecedent foe of "un-learning".

We may well be seeking escape from servile information architecture inculcating captive audiences with falsely attributed research authenticated learning traits re-inforced with behavioural indoctrination, classist belief systems and controlled networked knowledge portals.

I'm as tired of my current conditioning as an Online Networked Information Technologist as I was as an Artist. As an Educator however I'm piecing the two together and learning that I'm neither.

The only thing I learnt as a trainee teacher was what I had'nt learned as a student in primary grade. Sixty-six students started the degree and twenty-two completed the degree in the chronological flow of the teaching pattern. How many completed it before me is a mystery.

My Communications Lecturer now teaches my teenage daughter. I suspect my daughter will learn the same - un-learn ?

For me only the "ism's" remain the same.

The terminology shifts and the machine that mediates our learning continues to grow bigger.

The acronym's differing slightly however the drive to discover more without "un-learning" is more my goal - for now.

It's peaceful here in the country and yet the silence is golden and deafening. Perhaps I'm forcing myself into another bout of self-imposed "un-learning".

Time Out

As always I'm appalled that we have to revert back to behaviourist principles to govern what could otherwise be a democratic process when it comes to public funded online education forums.

Here's something I read in EDNA groups recently.

>........

Time out Area

As requested by our members we have now set up a 'Time Out' area. This area is for times when discussions between our members become too heated and personal for acceptance by the general community. We ask that members who are moved to this 'time out' space take a day or two before returning to the main community.

..........<

It sickens me to think that after all the discussions relating to the ability of a network comprised of groups to self moderate that we are now back to the dunce chair principle. I dont recall requesting such a barbaric inclusion nor do I support it - whatsoever.

I posit that the next iteration of such rules will include the following;

Punishment

As requested by our members we have now set up a 'punishment' area. This area is for times when discussions between our members become too heated and personal for acceptance by the general community and we shall administer punishment accordingly. We ask that members who are moved to this 'punishment' space take a day or two to consider the ramifications of their dis-engaged behaviourist moderation.

Awwwww........or f#@*& sake....can someone make some sense of this for me......oops.....looks like i'm gonna have to spend some time in the corner again. Naughty naughty...

Hmmmmm.......seriously now - I dont consider this to be a progressive step in the right discourse direction.

Success : The Right Combination

In a matter of a few months time I'll be contemplating how to best engage a vast number of people ( adults ) via an array of new and emergent communication technologies in an effort to broaden their e-learning horizons and hopefully engage them in things which would even confound Confucious.

Many things like my contact with Teemu have gone to the wayside - how does one keep up with it all ? I suspect much of it does not. Whats happened with all the bright ideas and the well meaning projects and all that stuff that just slips into the too hard basket ? What's Leigh up to and how much choclate is Nancy White eating ? It seriously raises the guilts in me.

More of the same and more of things unknown. The latter a little more this year which makes it exciting and worth every bit of the extra hours. I must admit - I do love my job. Who wouldnt ? I think it's just a matter of avoiding the office public service bitchin' politic.

Well woopee you may say........... but for me it's the begining of something new, fresh and lacking in the familiar stench of too few computers, cramped and shared desks and the odd rotting banana thrown into the back of the aging fridge in the Literacy 101 department. I kind of loved that job too. Most of the time.

The fact of the matter is that U-learning is on the dramatically on the rise and mobile phones are less and less keypad oriented although it all makes for good digital-data entry. In fact I watched a couple of kids on the train the other day operating the SMS facility of their phoned so proficiently that I felt compelled to ask them whether they would be interested in court stenogarphy. I'm sure text shorthand would be even quicker than writing and then re-transposing it. Failing that it could be a podcast or vodcast or.......

I say adults, because in this sensitive time here in Sydney, Australia it would seem that with an election looming close nothing can be left to chance ie. all activities befitting networked learning had better be enclosed in a digital walled garden. The osmotic effect can only go so far before DET legal kicks in the doors.. I'm not so green so it would seem. The open web publishing domain and contribution to world knowledge is still apparently feared........... much like death - the unknown is courted and humans might even discover something or even uncover something of the unknown. Or indeed the known. Via Google. Or YouTube.

I look around the world and feel inspired when I read the blogs of people like Graham Wegner and Kimberley A. Cofino as they refuse to consider anything that would stifle and retard the young minds in their charge. How is it that educators with half an inkling as to the longevity and sustainability of their chosen occupation choose to imbed learning as an open , networked and relationship building exercise ? because they care ?

Considering that kids these days dont have any idea of what Green Eggs and Ham are , it would make sense to give them as many clues as to where they may choose to access their knowledge, give them the opportunity to find ways to believe of things in ( not things to believe in ), ways to work but not working ways.

Without harping on any further in this passe read/write web I feel like I'm making inroads into the whole idea of playing in the "open" field yet for some reason I keep striking a loosly strung chord somewhere in it all. Generally people's spirits are on the rise and global pollution is less of an issue now that it's too expensive to drive to work and more fun to listen to podcasts on the bus and ignore everyone within two metres of one's body mass.

I think I'm going to start wearing things other than black. Start reading other peoples blogs rather than just going to Technorati and or seeing who's say hello via the digital intray.

Everyone's connected and yet who's got the time to say hello anymore. I'm still trying to find the right combination.

Conference Dis-Organisation

I'd like to speak to the post of Stephen Downe's which relates to how he thinks a conference should be organised.

S. ".....The structure would be more like a market or a fair. Mostly, there would not be a schedule. "
A. That would fit with the notions raised by Carnival of the Mobilists. Nice option and one that entertains most of us except those wearing tight fitting safari suits or ill fitting cardigans.

S. ".....Participants would certainly not get a schedule; organizers would have a bit of one, in order to choreograph the event."
A. Love it. Choreography is much what it's like .....dancing around, mark making and trying to make meaning from the chaos in the street. No real grasp or control......flow theory stuff.

S. ".......The conference area itself would consist of a largish central area with various side areas with more or less privacy (the presumption is that while people will want to go to the side to chat, etc., they won't want to cut themselves off completely from the main event)."
A. Hmmmmmm.......that would allow small groups to break up and form central performance areas or vice versa.....coming together like mercury.

S. "......The main area would itself have various types of things, including:- presentation booths - these are not lined up in rows, but are rather islands, round, surrounded by the attendees - exhibitors don't get a booth for the whole conference, rather, just for certain time slots (lots of rotation in the booths) - at any given time there will be many of these booths in operation - some of these (especially those in strategic areas) are no more than soapboxes, whereon a person stands and makes his/her pitch- bearpits - where from time to time famous people are surrounded by an audience, where - instead of presenting a lecture - they answer questions tossed in by the audience- demo labs - again, like the booths, nobody owns these, they are used for a certain amount of time - they consist of a large screen and about a dozen workstations - need lots of these, in various configurations - in the open, so people can stand around and watch- a great big wall where people can put up any sort of notice or advertisement they please (people who spam the board will have their messages removed)- electronic games and activities (could even make it possible to win 'tokens' by playing and use the tokens to auction things - check your local laws) -- there would absoluetly have to be a Wii area - but also, there are many video-cam games (eg. the video cam boxing game), have those set up as well, whatever games people want to play- Big screens everywhere - some of them are showing the games (especially the hockey games, especially the finals from the conference-long tournament), others are showing the conference 'backchannel' where participants (you need a conference login) post their thoughts- The announcers, of course, on the speaker system, letting people know when an event is about to take place - a '10 minute keynote', a 'Flash video demo', the 'George Siemens bearpit', the 'EA Hockey semi-finals', 'the Wii-learn SIG in the alcove...- Entertainment, including mainstage shows at noon and in the evening, side stage workshops (esp. with electronic music tools), wandering minstrals, jugglers- The Vendor's Parade- plenty of tables and chairs throughout, where people can sit and work or chat- wireless and numerous ethernet ports with the bandwidth to back them upThere would be numerous side areas, including (pay for meals and coffee, etc., with conference vouchers)- coffee shops (how much would Starbucks pay to have a coffee shop there?) and cafes (meals tend to be 'ad hoc', not huge 'everybody eats at once' factory-style conference dinners)- computer stores (Future shop? Apple)- bookstores - a proper bookstore, not just a few titles on a table- various types of pubs, some open and lively, others more like lounges, others with quiet out-of-the-way nooks- very quiet areas, with couches for sleeping- Art galleries / events (local artists are given a space and told to 'create')You get the idea...Now then, what we want participants to do is to add to this, in any way they can - we would want lots of ways participants can contribute...- code jams - where coders create a new applications- the participants' art gallery - any art, any way- the conference radio station / podcast (which plays on speakers in various locations, including some of the cafes, as well as online (of course))- 99-second presentationsAgain - from the participant's point of view, none of this is scheduled ahead of time - what they are intended to do is to arrive and follow what interests themWhat about papers? After all, that's how many people get funding to travel to conferences...- the conference book and DVD - participants will be asked to come and, at some point during the event (probably have to sign up for a slot) go to a studio and record a presentation of their work - they can also bring in audio or video clips to add - these will be facilitated by program directors and hosts - the idea here is to make the presentations less formal, not just a person reading, but rather a person showing, being interviewed, interacting with the audience, etc -- a lot of this would also be the material used for the conference radio and shown on some of the video screens throughout - after the show, you can but the book/dvd from Lulu- Typically conferences take place in converntion halls and the like -- and there's nothing wrong with that -- but it's worth nothing that a conference as described here can fit into pretty much any (large) location - school, college building, small town, whatever...

A. Sounds like where Elearning 06 attempted to get to last year and where Elearning 07 is headed in 2007. I love the devolved nature of these images you paint where learning and interaction preferences people ahead of pomp and ceremony.

What gets me though Stephen is that I'm likely to attend about 50 educational booth style, sage-on-stage expert driven side show alleys this year and the organisers of these events find it incredibly difficult to place your ideas within the realities of their given restraints. I'm taken with your concept and I'm doing my best to build bridges over rivers and turn groups into networks and it's a nerve racking experience........I'm not sure a great deal of it sticks but it's definetly worth the effort.

I feel like I'm part of a learning ecosphere that honours only a chosen few. The paradox is that I've been asked today to present the highlights of the last two years of learning within my e-for-e-learning area as a bunch of graphs, charts and tables.

99 second presentations...............of another type.